I was a cowboy and I loved working with horses; I grew up with them and participated in competitions and shows. And of course, we taught it in class; we had a large farm, and people came to ride horses. By the way, Maya Hawk is a very close friend of mine since childhood. I got on my horse that morning as usual and after a while I returned to the farm. Joe Kerry was talking to an employee. I adjusted my cowboy hat, dismounted from my horse, and went over to Joe. We didn't love each other very much.